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Re: WS/WAS: What snaps them out of it? [Re: Vittoria] #157872
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Originally Posted By: Vittoria
I agree Medc. Remember, we've experienced it and are fully aware of just how crippling that hurt is. Not having had to experience it first hand, I could only imagine how awful it would be to discover an A, the imagination can never do that type of pain justice. Much like we can't ever know the pain of guilt for inflicting such hurt.

I see ST's point like you and I see her view of how no/little reaction can be seen as no/little care.


Thank you MEDC and Vitt, for understanding where I was coming from. You are correct, I know I wouldn't really want to be witness to that or to know that I had caused it.


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Re: WS/WAS: What snaps them out of it? [Re: Squeaky Tree] #157975
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Originally Posted By: staytogether
Thank you MEDC and Vitt, for understanding where I was coming from. You are correct, I know I wouldn't really want to be witness to that or to know that I had caused it.

As much as I'm told not to hitch my emotional well-being to someone else's horse, it still can hurt when I think someone I care about may not feel the same about me. I also think I understand where you were coming from.

(((((((ST)))))))


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Re: WS/WAS: What snaps them out of it? [Re: Looking4] #157987
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Vitt,

Thank you for your kind words. It really brightened my day.

-ATE

Re: WS/WAS: What snaps them out of it? [Re: AtTheEnd?] #158021
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FWIW, AtTheEnd?, I think you just might win the prize this month for having the most multi-conversational-t/jed thread on MA. smile

I hope you enjoy your weekend.


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Re: WS/WAS: What snaps them out of it? [Re: ] #158146
09/17/11 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted By: tinkerbell
I have not been given an explanation, have you gotten one yet?
One week after The Bomb she cited:
- her asking to leave my family reunion and by the time I finished my goodbyes, it was 45 minutes later (this was 7 years pre-bomb)
- my trying to get her to skinny-dip during a very secluded vacation moment (this was 5 years pre-bomb)
- a discussion (not argument) that we had re: sex (this was 15 years pre-bomb)
- I was "too helpful."
- my getting aroused when we would go to sleep spooning. Her IC told her this was "sexual abuse."

I kid you not.

Total, alien, scraping-the-bottom-of-the-barrel for ANY reason. She had just read Eat, Pray, Love: "I don't want to be married anymore."

I will never know the truth.
I no longer care.
Originally Posted By: tinkerbell
I really do think what you put about it is a shell they aren't showing you all of who they are, or how you worded it. You have really delved into this, thinking about it. Thanks for posting it all, it helps.
I wasn't clear, here. The long quoted passage was from a posting by a wise DB poster by the screen name of Snodderly.


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Gardener

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but gather them in the one garden you may call your own."
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Re: WS/WAS: What snaps them out of it? [Re: Gardener] #158154
09/17/11 01:28 AM
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The Castle Aaaggghh...
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The Castle Aaaggghh...
Not sure why this thread is so hard to read tonight.

Thanks to....several things, I no longer carry the weight of the A, though it will always be a great regret. But sometimes I wonder why it took so long for me to see it clearly.....I wasn't stupid. I'm not foraging around for past pain here, but I think sometimes....we repeat patterns in thinking even if the actions we repeat are not the same.

L4's post hit me..

Quote:
As much as I'm told not to hitch my emotional well-being to someone else's horse, it still can hurt when I think someone I care about may not feel the same about me.


Now understand very very clearly that my A was absolutely and fully my responsibility. There is no excuse. But what she just stated.....I felt that so acutely for so many years before....and eventually for several years after.

This time around I knew what a dangerous place that was to be....and I also knew what would and would not ever change.

I started this post with a point, but I lost it.....I blame the fever smile I will say that no matter what pain I was in personally, I wish I could undo the pain I caused with the A. Not wallowing, just a fact.

I have been thinking a lot about how important our way of thinking is.....vulnerability led to some pretty rotten choices back in 2006. The key for me - in part - is how to choose my thinking when I am vulnerable.


Re: WS/WAS: What snaps them out of it? [Re: Gardener] #158155
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I got something like a list, a complaint about a phone bill 22 years ago, true

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Re: WS/WAS: What snaps them out of it? [Re: herfuturesbright] #158156
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Maybe because it is friday nite

Are you ok?

tink

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Re: WS/WAS: What snaps them out of it? [Re: ] #158158
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The Castle Aaaggghh...
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Eh....I will prevail. smile

Ready to start work - too much time on my hands

Re: WS/WAS: What snaps them out of it? [Re: AtTheEnd?] #445748
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Originally Posted by AtTheEnd?
This subject came up in another thread and felt it deserved it's own. What brings the WS/WAS out of their "fog"? How long does it take? What is the next step for the WS? How do they feel? Where is the BS at this point? How often does this snapping out of it happen (possibly never)? Once they our out of it, do they want to return, or do they just move onto another relationship?

Feel free to add more and expand on this subject.

-AtTheEnd?


Time for a revisit I guess smile


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